[ Matt's eyebrows arch, his expression one of unskeptical interest. ]

Okay, you raise a very interesting point. [ Uh-oh. ] What does "real" mean in this context?

Like, this-- [ He gestures towards his mostly untouched mango sticky rice. ] --looks and tastes like fruit and grain, and it's real in the sense that it's made of matter. But back where I'm from, "made of matter" generally doesn't cut it. We wanna know if our food is ethically sourced, if it's been genetically modified, that kind of thing.

So what's real to you?